soc.history.what-if: Behind the Green Door - big usenet thread speculating on the Earth of 250,000,000 A.D. [via Wis[s]e Words]
skyline
1. posted by Martijn at 22:45 on April 28, 2004
Zo, 't was écht donker!
2. posted by low at 22:52 on April 28, 2004
Was dat die wolkbreuk?
3. posted by milov at 23:10 on April 28, 2004
Vlak ervoor (of erna). Durfde niet echt 't dak op tijdens het onweer :)
4. posted by P01 at 23:12 on April 28, 2004
It's great that the images are taken with the same settings. Have you used a tripod ? It'd rock to have something like one image per hour ^___^
5. posted by milov at 23:17 on April 28, 2004
No tripod... coincidentally taken from almost the same position (today and yesterday) and aligned in Photoshop.
6. posted by P01 at 00:03 on April 29, 2004
cheater :p
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"Lost in identity" - interesting European Union flag suggestion by Annelys de Vet.
Update: larger version here.
Update: larger version here.
1. posted by Anne at 14:42 on April 29, 2004
En hoe gaan ze dat dan aanpakken bij het uitbreiden van de EU? Nu erg dichtbij.
2. posted by Anne at 14:43 on April 29, 2004
Wel mooi bedacht*
3. posted by nowak at 01:23 on April 30, 2004
Weird. Everytime I hit that link, it crashes Firefox... ?
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Wait, there's an actual city called City of Industry? I thought it was just a movie and a nickname for Los Angeles or something.
1. posted by aol.com,OttoMalone,D. Malone at 08:50 on May 20, 2004
I am trying to locate apartments in the City of Industry and can not find any. Are there any there???
2. posted by John Doe at 22:41 on April 11, 2005
There is a City of Industry band, City of Industry Movie, and a city named City of Industry in California. Wack!
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artificial sky
1. posted by absolut at 01:46 on April 26, 2004
Are you sure that this one is artificial?
2. posted by JW at 11:04 on April 26, 2004
Nice sunset. Which roofs are we looking at? Maybe a "ugly" daytime photo to show?
3. posted by milov at 16:39 on April 26, 2004
It's artificial in the sense that those clouds were formed by man-made objects (planes).
I don't think I even *have* a daytime photo of those roofs, probably because it really would have been "ugly" :)
I don't think I even *have* a daytime photo of those roofs, probably because it really would have been "ugly" :)
4. posted by emarquetti at 17:17 on April 26, 2004
Many flights near your block eh? You cold show it at http://www.enchantedceiling.com
5. posted by milov at 17:26 on April 26, 2004
Cool site, Eduardo. Thanks for the tip!
6. posted by huphtur at 20:16 on April 26, 2004
check this out: http://www.apfn.org/apfn/contrails.htm
7. posted by 990000 at 06:33 on April 28, 2004
nice
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UHF - The 15 Year Pilgrimage - Rob O'Hara searches Tulsa, Oklahoma for all the locations featured in the Weird Al Yankovic movie "UHF". [via Delta Tango Bravo]
1. posted by chad at 11:56 on April 27, 2004
Wierd Al. What a legend.
2. posted by Rob O'Hara at 23:06 on May 28, 2006
The URL has been moved to its permanent home, http://www.robohara.com/uhf
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1. posted by hotmail.com,ryanmac411,ryan at 06:59 on April 25, 2004
what is this supposed to be?
2. posted by absolut at 01:41 on April 26, 2004
Maybe just a duck ;-)
3. posted by hotmail.com,ryanmac411,ryan at 00:55 on April 27, 2004
i no, but is it supposed to b anything else besides that? inner meaning or an inside joke? just wondering
4. posted by Dominic Cronin at 18:26 on April 28, 2004
It's a coot. You know - as in "bald as a coot". Check out the funky bald patch at the front of its head. (Also - the Dutch name is a give-away!)
5. posted by ryan at 01:42 on May 14, 2004
its supposed to be a peaceful scene of nature. a romanticist might have painted something such as this to signify the beuty in nature, of the changing seasons and the life within :)
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Listening to: :: DEEP MIX MOSCOW RADIO :: (Monkey Radio-ish)
1. posted by Kethinov at 23:51 on April 20, 2004
The guy acts like css layout like in zen garden is the end all to web design. Tables are far more scalable in the long run than div/css layout. Sure you can design a site to workn fine with css layout. Your's is a good example. But in the end, if you want to design a template that can truly be scaled to different sizes, alignments, and positions, you use tables.
Finally, you don't need spacer gifs to design pixel perfect table layouts cross browser. That guy kind of acts like it's always been necessary. I still do table based layouts and I haven't touched a spacer gif in years.
Finally, you don't need spacer gifs to design pixel perfect table layouts cross browser. That guy kind of acts like it's always been necessary. I still do table based layouts and I haven't touched a spacer gif in years.
2. posted by P01 at 00:03 on April 21, 2004
What do you mean different size/alignement/... ? 'cause all that is easily handled by CSS.
3. posted by milov at 00:15 on April 21, 2004
> I still do table based layouts and I haven't touched a spacer gif
> in years
Well there's good table based design and bad table based design. As far as table layouts go, yours is exceptionally cleanly coded. But it is an exception :)
I don't see tables offering all that much flexibility with regard to changing the layout. For example, I like being able to control via a stylesheet whether a page section appears as a column on the right or on the left, or as a paragraph at the top even. In a table based layout, that'll always mean rewriting the html.
> in years
Well there's good table based design and bad table based design. As far as table layouts go, yours is exceptionally cleanly coded. But it is an exception :)
I don't see tables offering all that much flexibility with regard to changing the layout. For example, I like being able to control via a stylesheet whether a page section appears as a column on the right or on the left, or as a paragraph at the top even. In a table based layout, that'll always mean rewriting the html.
4. posted by Calm_Pear at 00:21 on April 21, 2004
Well, if you really want to make websites backwards compatible you will have to use tables. It’s like I told a friend; “it’s the new nerd thing telling everybody your page doesn’t have tables”, it’s like some years ago, people telling each other that they where coding html in notepad and expecting respect of some kind. Aligning and positioning can be done in css but you cannot expect everybody to use the most modern browser out there. (Check for instance http://pr0n.braincast.nl in Netscape 4.*, link not work safe!!!)
5. posted by milov at 00:30 on April 21, 2004
Yeah I bet those Netscape 4 users are real picky about the layout of their pr0n sites being pixel perfect....?!
Seriously, you actually know people that are still using Netscape 4? It's like 7 years old. I figure people that surf with a broken browser (which NS4 is) are used to seeing broken layouts all the time anyway.
Seriously, you actually know people that are still using Netscape 4? It's like 7 years old. I figure people that surf with a broken browser (which NS4 is) are used to seeing broken layouts all the time anyway.
6. posted by Calm_Pear at 00:35 on April 21, 2004
That's true, not many people using that piece of crap but I encountered lots of businesses that still use Nutscrape as a tool to verify html code before they’ll implement your banner or other stuff. Not that I’m really happy about it to say the least.
7. posted by huphtur at 03:37 on April 21, 2004
this kethinov guy sound like he wrote this: http://www.apcmag.com/apc/v3.nsf/0/A569C81864DC4F1BCA256E5F001A59C5
maybe he should go read this: http://www.maccaws.org/kit/primer/
maybe he should go read this: http://www.maccaws.org/kit/primer/
8. posted by Kethinov at 04:55 on April 21, 2004
Huphtur I'm not against CSS, I'm against people believing that divs/css can truly replace tables/css.
With divs, float: left;, display: inline;, and so on you can never TRULY emulate rows, cells, rowspan, and colspan. Much less cells which automatically resizing based on content size.
Got a row with 3 cells? Want to add another? Fine just add another td. Got 3 left floating divs? Want to add another to use 100% width and not wrap over? Not only do you add the div code, but you have to adjust the width properties of the other divs.
I tried for weeks to use divs/css to have the bragging rights to say "no tables"
But I found that every approach I used ended up being nothing but a cheap hack, which required more effort than just using a simple, tried and true table.
To sum up my argument: You don't need to abandon tables to embrace CSS.
With divs, float: left;, display: inline;, and so on you can never TRULY emulate rows, cells, rowspan, and colspan. Much less cells which automatically resizing based on content size.
Got a row with 3 cells? Want to add another? Fine just add another td. Got 3 left floating divs? Want to add another to use 100% width and not wrap over? Not only do you add the div code, but you have to adjust the width properties of the other divs.
I tried for weeks to use divs/css to have the bragging rights to say "no tables"
But I found that every approach I used ended up being nothing but a cheap hack, which required more effort than just using a simple, tried and true table.
To sum up my argument: You don't need to abandon tables to embrace CSS.
9. posted by P01 at 20:43 on April 21, 2004
Kethinov: You're right, it's a bit of work to insert another column in a CSS based layout, but not that much.
Let's be pragmatic : how often do we have to change a layout ? And when we have to, it's certainly easier/faster to just insert a DIV and tune/add some CSS rules, than diving in a bunch of table tags to find where to insert the content and eventually update the rowspan/colspan attributes of the neighbour cells.
On the other hand, the use of Web Standard is heavilly justified by some accessibilty and SEO constraints which may not be the top priorities for every projects.
Let's be pragmatic : how often do we have to change a layout ? And when we have to, it's certainly easier/faster to just insert a DIV and tune/add some CSS rules, than diving in a bunch of table tags to find where to insert the content and eventually update the rowspan/colspan attributes of the neighbour cells.
On the other hand, the use of Web Standard is heavilly justified by some accessibilty and SEO constraints which may not be the top priorities for every projects.
10. posted by JW at 22:04 on April 21, 2004
Euhm guys, does semantics ring a bell? Tables are only allowed for tabular data, not as grid for lay-out purposes to place non tabular data in the right place.
HTML is a structured semantic language, like SGML, so use it in the right semantic way for structuring of your data and use CSS for the presetaion of you data.
It is oll in the specs, just learn to read them right.
HTML is a structured semantic language, like SGML, so use it in the right semantic way for structuring of your data and use CSS for the presetaion of you data.
It is oll in the specs, just learn to read them right.
11. posted by chad at 14:42 on April 22, 2004
Thanks for that wonderful insight JW. I'm sure that going by the HTML rules makes tables about 250% more useful.
12. posted by ACJ at 06:04 on April 29, 2004
JW is right... and if I might add something; talk about using table hacked layouts for the sake of backwards compatability always makes me chuckle -- try to run your table hacked site on Mozaic or Netscape 1 -- we'll talk then (and yes, using XHTML and CSS properly IS compatable with mentioned browsers). ;)
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hoek van holland
1. posted by adam at 13:11 on April 16, 2004
Hey die vuurtoren hebben ze van kijkduin gejat!
2. posted by milov at 13:45 on April 16, 2004
Klopt, met een helikopter zelfs:
http://www.luchtmacht.nl/soesterberg/actueel/nieuws/2004/februari/20040218_chinookverplaatstvuurtoren.html
http://www.luchtmacht.nl/soesterberg/actueel/nieuws/2004/februari/20040218_chinookverplaatstvuurtoren.html
3. posted by absolut at 10:45 on April 19, 2004
The sky on the first picture remind me a Stalker game :) Check http://www.stalker-game.com/download/gallery/screenshots/middle/sb_xray_41.jpg
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1. posted by Comment Spamming Bitch Riding High On Blogdex! at 22:55 on April 17, 2004
Don't mind me, I'm just a comment-spamming bitch invading your website for my own nefarious means!
2. posted by milov at 10:13 on April 21, 2004
...and making a lot of enemies on the way, I wager.
3. posted by chad at 15:55 on April 25, 2004
How interesting...
http://overstated.net/04/04/19-hot-abercrombie-hoax.asp
It'd be interesting to see how many extra hits he gets from spamming.
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http://overstated.net/04/04/19-hot-abercrombie-hoax.asp
It'd be interesting to see how many extra hits he gets from spamming.
new building
1. posted by ACJ at 05:04 on April 13, 2004
It looks tiny.
2. posted by P01 at 21:43 on April 14, 2004
The slope of the roof is interresting. With the perspective, it's almost aligned with the front of the building. And the dark color gives a precious aspect.
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yukihime.com - The Penny Arcade Remix Project - Japanese students create their own versions of Penny Arcade comics for an English class. [via I Love Everything]
1. posted by Jan! at 16:29 on April 12, 2004
Coincidentally, I'm listening to MC Frontalot, the self-proclaimed "world's 579th-greatest rapper." He made a theme song to Penny Arcade; it rocks: http://www.frontalot.com/lyrics/pennyarcadetheme.html
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layered reflection
1. posted by P01 at 00:06 on April 11, 2004
The second pic is gorgeous.
Right angle matching both reflections.
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Right angle matching both reflections.
1. posted by low at 17:09 on April 09, 2004
*tilts head sideways*
2. posted by 23JUL at 17:11 on April 09, 2004
*shifttripleclick*
3. posted by Jeroen at 18:45 on April 10, 2004
first I thought the bright part in the upper right was a window, a blue wall and a yellow wall, with some machinery attached to it.
How often your mind tries to find a mental picture when looking at things...
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How often your mind tries to find a mental picture when looking at things...
water spill
1. posted by Thiemo at 08:32 on April 05, 2004
Wah, it's a monster!
2. posted by P01 at 11:41 on April 05, 2004
^_^ it reminds me the evil ghosts in Super Mario Bros
3. posted by Marijn at 16:35 on April 05, 2004
Too much free time huh? :P
4. posted by absolut at 15:28 on April 08, 2004
What is that? :)
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get your Breedster eggs here
Anybody want to be invited to Breedster and get an ascii-insect of their own? My bug has laid a
I'm all out of eggs at the moment, sorry :|
1. posted by Martijn at 16:44 on April 03, 2004
2. posted by Arthur at 23:18 on April 04, 2004
Yes please! :-)
3. posted by 23JUL at 11:16 on April 05, 2004
Me 2 :)
4. posted by Arjen at 14:43 on April 05, 2004
and me also!
5. posted by Jef Pober at 15:50 on April 05, 2004
Me also too! :)
6. posted by Thiemo at 17:58 on April 05, 2004
I would like to ...
7. posted by Arthur! at 22:22 on April 05, 2004
Durf het bijna niet te vragen...
8. posted by CasaMan at 23:35 on April 06, 2004
;) klopt
e-at-casaman.nl
e-at-casaman.nl
9. posted by snarl at 13:05 on April 07, 2004
i'd like to spread my spawn!
10. posted by aex.org,aex,sickrobot at 16:17 on April 07, 2004
hiya -- i'd like an egg please.. sounds cool..
thank you :)
thank you :)
11. posted by Patrick at 14:06 on April 08, 2004
any eggs left for me?
yachtpatrick monkey-tail hotmail dot com
yachtpatrick monkey-tail hotmail dot com
12. posted by tate at 23:26 on April 10, 2004
You must be so proud.
I'll take care of one, if you have any left.
I'll take care of one, if you have any left.
13. posted by milov at 23:46 on April 10, 2004
Well I have like 15 eggs at the moment, so it really isn't a burden ;)
14. posted by Nate at 20:19 on April 13, 2004
I'd like one! nsteiner at
15. posted by Janette at 04:49 on April 15, 2004
Can I please have one? I want to join. I know I don't know you or anything, I found you on google :)
16. posted by ,mynickname_at_hotmail_dot_com,TsiisSkaaf at 16:32 on April 15, 2004
Hé I also want to join, do you hava an egg for me??
17. posted by hotmail.com,reuvie,treeg at 23:36 on April 17, 2004
I would love to have an egg if you have one left
18. posted by Ephelis at 01:52 on April 18, 2004
I would love to join Breedster. If you have any eggs left, would you please donate one? :)
19. posted by demonspawn.net,pete,Pete at 20:57 on April 18, 2004
i wish to see what this is about it sounds similar to IRC muds. I have no idea if ill make a good bug or not but please send me an egg .. it sounde like you have many to spare.
20. posted by boney at 14:01 on April 20, 2004
Seeing as you had 20, If you got one left? Purty please? :o/ :o)
21. posted by hotmail.com,paulstekelenburg,Paulus at 11:43 on April 21, 2004
I'd like one egg please thank you very much!
22. posted by xs4all.nl,rmfaas,Tijn at 14:21 on April 22, 2004
I would like an egg please. :)
23. posted by ,sweetb1tch_19,Sonja at 14:23 on April 23, 2004
I would like an egg!!
24. posted by snail-mail.net,poterat,poterat at 02:00 on April 25, 2004
I would like an egg! please?
25. posted by databeesje.nl,mschepers,Menno at 23:58 on April 26, 2004
open my eyes
26. posted by yahoo.com,polly_k_1006,Pamela at 15:28 on April 27, 2004
I would like an egg, please :)
27. posted by yahoo.com,cuppa211,Jennifer at 07:08 on April 28, 2004
I would like an egg too Pleeease?
28. posted by mitchel.ee,mts,mitchell at 02:52 on April 30, 2004
can i have one too, i'd really be happy about it. thanks with sugar on top
29. posted by soinsincere.com,Jack,Jack at 23:29 on April 30, 2004
I'll take one off your hands, man!
30. posted by hotmail.com,simon_last,simon at 11:23 on May 01, 2004
oh i'd love one too!
is there enough to go round?
i love eggs...
is there enough to go round?
i love eggs...
31. posted by sboekee.nl,onzin,Sander at 15:40 on May 01, 2004
I would like an egg, just emailed you before I say this window.
Regards,
Sander.
Regards,
Sander.
32. posted by writeme.xs4all.nl,vera,Vera at 15:42 on May 01, 2004
Love to receive one!!! Hope there still is one left for me.
Kind Regards,
Vera.
Kind Regards,
Vera.
33. posted by driestar.nl,02kr2201p,badmeester at 12:44 on May 06, 2004
i want an eggie
34. posted by lstcaress at 21:01 on May 09, 2004
for others with more eggs/information or if you have any to share, this link is for you: http://www.livejournal.com/community/breedster
35. posted by aol.com,tonyolympia,Tony at 02:59 on May 11, 2004
It seems too much to hope for, but if there is an egg left, please email it to me. Thanks tremendously.
36. posted by Corien at 12:29 on June 17, 2004
How can it be there is no egg more... it's just something on the computer, not real eggs!
37. posted by hotmail.com,arned_2,Arne at 18:34 on September 30, 2004
i need a egg please
i played this game a year agow
but now i want to play it again
i love it so much.. please :)
ik wil er egt eentje :) arned_2@hotmail.com :):)
i played this game a year agow
but now i want to play it again
i love it so much.. please :)
ik wil er egt eentje :) arned_2@hotmail.com :):)
38. posted by milov at 20:17 on September 30, 2004
A year ago? That's unpossible!
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red and white plastic barrier
1. posted by swanz at 20:03 on April 01, 2004
gran turismo in het echt.
2. posted by Jeroen at 21:26 on April 02, 2004
beetje post-nuclear gevoel....kweetniet...
3. posted by hotmail.com,ryanmac411,ryan at 01:37 on April 27, 2004
if its not too much trouble, could i have a larger version of the picture above?
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lightning
1. posted by swanz at 23:40 on April 30, 2004
2. posted by Mario at 06:09 on May 01, 2004
3. posted by Arthur at 08:45 on May 04, 2004
4. posted by Thiemo at 14:25 on May 05, 2004
5. posted by milov at 10:02 on May 06, 2004